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| I hit my ball out of the bunker and put it into the next bunker, i then raked the first bunker and was told i was disqualified for raking the bunker is this correct.
i payed out of a bunker, next shot went into the next bunker i rakeked the first bunker and was then told that i was disqualified for raking the bunker, can you clarifie, i thought you had to rake a bunker. |
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| Hi I.Jack,
There are two things wrong against you in this - first off the penalty for touching the sand in a bunker BEFORE you play a stroke in the bunker when your ball lies in that bunker is NOT disqualification, in Stroke Play it is a 2 stroke penalty and in Match Play it is loss of hole.
BUT in your case there should be NO PENALTY.
The Rule you need to look at is 13-4 and read Exception 2.
Which says in brief - AFTER MAKING A STROKE a player may smooth the sand in a hazard providing nothing is done to improve the lie of the ball or the area of the next swing.
That means EVEN if the ball is still in the SAME bunker - and your ball had gone into a different bunker.
Here is a Decision from the R&A Rules Decisions Book, that is very similar to your case.
Decision 13-4/38
Q. After playing his ball out of a greenside bunker, the player smoothes his footprints. He then discovers that his ball is in another bunker on the other side of the green. He plays out of the second bunker and the ball comes to rest in the smoothed area of the first bunker. What is the ruling?
A. No penalty was incurred. The player did not smooth his footprints in the first bunker while his ball still lay in that bunker — see Exception 2 to Rule 13-4.
I hope this helps.
All the best,
SH. |
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| I.Jack,
Just to give you a bit more background on touching the ground in a hazard.
The reason the Rules don't want a player to touch the sand in a bunker BEFORE he has played his shot, is so that he doesn't test the conditions of that hazard (and that includes any similar hazard nearby). The player can't get an unfair feel for the sand.
BUT - once the player has played his shot in the bunker, you could say he has already tested the conditions in the best way possible, raking the bunker AFTER, gives the player no extra information at all.
So for example - if you play a shot in a bunker, but your ball stays in the bunker about 6 feet away, you can smooth the sand as long as you don't improve anything for your next shot.
That means how the ball is lying, the area of where you will stand or swing, or the direction in front of the ball that you will play over.
And as I said in the other post the actual penalty for touching the ground in a hazard BEFORE you make your shot is - 2 stroke penalty in Stroke Play and loss of hole in Match Play - NOT disqualification.
Regards,
SH. |
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| | I agree with the previous comments. But would like to clarify what I should have done having recently been told I should disqualify myself in a monthly medal. I came up short of a fairway bunker, played my shot into a Greenside bunker but my divot went into the fairway bunker, which I retrieved and then raked my foootmarks. I was advised this is testing the surface and would give me information regarding the condition of the sand when I went to paly my next shot. However, I thought the etiquette of golf says you should rake the bunker? |
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