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selbmag

Posted 19/10/2009 13:14:26

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I am a beginner but I have read the rule book and understood it as best I can. A few queries came up today while I was playing an opponent who may have tried to take advantage IMHO. I say opponent but it was just a standard stroke play game against each other.

Sprinkler Relief
One of my shots landed on a large manhole cover next to the green. This circular manhole was the size of a dustbin lid and sunk about 1/2 foot into the ground. The ball was on the inside against the lip. I said I would take free relief.

Opponent disagreed stating relief was available from sprinkler heads which were much smaller. In his opinion this was not a sprinkler head and he would not allow me relief (he had a smug smile while he said it). Rather than argue I played the shot.

I struck the ball with my SW away from the green and used the lip to rebound it back onto the green with it landing 2 foot from the hole. Opponent called me a lucky **** which while I played for it I probably was Smile

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Should i have stood my ground and just taken the free relief?

Temporary Greens
With the same opponent one of my balls landed on the normal green. At a hole with a temporary green. I asked if I should treat the normal green as GUR and take free relief dropping behind it further away from the temp green. My opponent said no as it was not marked as GUR and there was no local ruling posted. I said I was not about to risk taking a divot out of the normal green. I chose a bump and run shoot which IMHO cost me an extra shoot. There was no local ruling about the temporary greens I just thought it would be common sense.

Thoughts?

Hitting Golf Bag
Same opponent a few holes later. The tee is in a hidden spot around the corner of some tees so you tend to leave you golf bag on the path from the last hole to show others you are on the tee. My opponent took his tee shot and hooked it badly. The ball hit his own golf bag. I said that was a penalty but I was unsure if it was one stroke or two. Because I could not quote the rule accurately my opponent said it wasn't and I did not know what I was talking about.

Can anyone clarify the ruling on this for me?

In summary the game ended with me losing by 4 strokes. But it did not really bother me as I was happy with how I had played.

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selbmag

Posted 19/10/2009 14:59:31

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Don,

Thank you for clearing that up. with the hitting bag rule should the ball then be played as it lies or should he take the shot again from the tee?

If you completely disagree on the course over a ruling and can not reach a decision what should be the best option to take?

Bear in mind this is a small 9 hole local course with no clubhouse / committee just a Society.

I would rather just get on with the game so to settle it I would probably just drop my argument.

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Don1

Posted 19/10/2009 15:49:58

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selbmag (19/10/2009)

Don,

Thank you for clearing that up. with the hitting bag rule should the ball then be played as it lies or should he take the shot again from the tee?

No Ball is played as it lies

If you completely disagree on the course over a ruling and can not reach a decision what should be the best option to take?

Use R3-3 in stroke play, get a ruling after the game

Bear in mind this is a small 9 hole local course with no clubhouse / committee just a Society.

There has to be a "committee" of some sort

I would rather just get on with the game so to settle it I would probably just drop my argument.

When you know the rules to the extent that you can quote then chapter and verse, you will find that no one will argue.

Don

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